1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,000 The story starts in this sweet way. 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,000 You've got five friends. 3 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,000 They are pals from a disability center. 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:30,000 And they head off to a basketball game. 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,000 And then no one quite understands what happened after that. 6 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,000 I was a young reporter then, but even then I knew. 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:44,000 None of it made any sense. 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:52,000 You the county lawman call this one of the more bizarre missing person cases they've ever handled. 9 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,000 Families are panicking because we got five young men missing. 10 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:01,000 The car has been found 70 miles in the wrong direction. 11 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:04,000 Somebody made them kids do this. 12 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Did they get here on their own or were they brought here deliberately? 13 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:12,000 That's the million dollar question. 14 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Why do you start walking in the freezing cold clearly having no idea where you're going? 15 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,000 How did anyone miss this trailer? 16 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,000 The sheriff's department didn't take it serious. 17 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,000 How much longer are you going to continue the search? 18 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Until we find the rest of it. 19 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 I want to tell you there's no hope. 20 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:43,000 Someone has to know where they are. 21 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:50,000 On the evening of February 24th, 1978, five men disappeared 22 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,000 after leaving a basketball game in Chico, California. 23 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,000 Their car was found abandoned 70 miles away from their homes. 24 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:06,000 For almost 50 years, the case of the Yuba County five has perplexed investigators. 25 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,000 Nothing adds up. 26 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Why did the men drive so far in the wrong direction? 27 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:18,000 Why did they leave the car and walk into the snowy night? 28 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:38,000 Were they lost or did something more sinister happen? 29 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Yuba County, to me, it was just a beautiful place. 30 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:47,000 We'd go hunting and fishing. 31 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:53,000 You couldn't drive down the road without somebody waving at you because you knew everybody. 32 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:12,000 I had no clue what the high crime rate was until all this stuff started. 33 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:15,000 This is the one I like. I like that picture. 34 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,000 That's Jackie, right? 35 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,000 Yeah. It was like six, seven. 36 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Look at that hair. 37 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,000 I know. You're so cute. 38 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,000 You and your brother had the same eyes. 39 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,000 That's my mom. 40 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,000 That's me and that's Jackie. 41 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 It looks like Christmas. 42 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,000 No date? Oh yeah, it does. 43 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,000 Look at that. That's his last Christmas. 44 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,000 That was 1978. 45 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:55,000 My brother, Jackie, Bill Sterling, Jack Madruga, Gary Mathias, and Ted Weir. 46 00:03:55,000 --> 00:04:00,000 They first met when they went to the Gateway Project. 47 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:07,000 The Gateway Project helped autistic or disabled people to learn sports 48 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:11,000 and learn how to mingle with other people. 49 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Basketball was their big thing. 50 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:19,000 The Gateway Gators, they lived for that. 51 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:26,000 My big brother, Jackie, he was 24 years old, but he had the mindset of a 16-year-old. 52 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:34,000 He was slower than most of us growing up, but nobody ever treated him slower. 53 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 He could write his name. He could use the telephone. 54 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 He had a girlfriend. 55 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:42,000 He had a girlfriend, talked to her for hours on the phone. 56 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,000 Jackie didn't see people as bad. 57 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:50,000 He was just always smiling, always happy. 58 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,000 My brother, Jackie, and Ted Weir, you would think they were brothers. 59 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,000 They were together so much. 60 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:02,000 If you've seen Jackie, Ted wasn't far behind. 61 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Ted loved macaroni and cheese. 62 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,000 In fact, that's what my wife got him for Christmas. 63 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,000 He had fed the macaroni and cheese, and you had one happy dog. 64 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,000 He was kidding a button. 65 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:20,000 But it was just his mind and the way he projected himself. 66 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,000 He just couldn't put everything together. 67 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:28,000 Uncle Ted, I never thought of him as being special. 68 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Of course, they used a different word back then, the R word. 69 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 He was the fun, Uncle. 70 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 Goofy, hairy, burly, curly hair. 71 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:45,000 He was the janitor at junior high school. 72 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,000 But he was ours, and you protect your own. 73 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,000 We loved him, and we knew he loved us. 74 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Jack Madruga wasn't as outgoing as my Uncle Ted, 75 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,000 but they were friends. 76 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Uncle Jack, he was very quiet, socially awkward. 77 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,000 He would get nervous speaking to people, 78 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,000 and they thought there was something wrong with him. 79 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,000 He was just a very, very reserved person. 80 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 But there was nothing slow about him at all. 81 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,000 He went to Vietnam. 82 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,000 He did very well in school, signed up for college all on his own. 83 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,000 He was more like a bigger brother than an uncle. 84 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,000 We called him Doc. 85 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,000 He used to haul me and all my friends around all the time for us. 86 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Or we'd ditch school and call him up, come and get us. 87 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:38,000 We were very close. 88 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Doc and Bill Sterling, they were best buddies. 89 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Bill Sterling, I remember him giving me pointers 90 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 on how to release the ball and bowling. 91 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 He was a sweet guy, and very friendly, 92 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:57,000 and just wanted to help people, wanted to be there for folks. 93 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:02,000 And Gary Mathias, he joined the group a little later than the rest of the guys, 94 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,000 but the five of them became a great team. 95 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,000 Gary was a little brother. I looked up to him. 96 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 He was an athlete. He was a musician. 97 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:18,000 He was all kinds of things that inspired me. 98 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 He stood up for me a couple of times. 99 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 I was going to get my butt kicked, and he stepped in. 100 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 See, that was the kind of guy he was. 101 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:34,000 He would back up his family. No questions. 102 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:38,000 When Gary was in the military, he was given a medical release. 103 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,000 They believed he was schizophrenic. 104 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,000 He got a new psych doctor, and they changed his medications, 105 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,000 and they got him doing really, really well. 106 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,000 That he started working for our stepfather. 107 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,000 Gary was a very caring person. 108 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:04,000 All five of the boys, they were friends for eight or nine years. 109 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,000 They would walk everywhere until Jack Madruga got his car. 110 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:16,000 69 Mercury Montego, that was Jack Madruga's pride and joy, that car. 111 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:22,000 They would just pile in there, all laughs, the windows down, wave at the people. 112 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,000 Their favorite team was UC Davis, and UC Davis was playing Chico. 113 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:42,000 They planned to go watch this game, and it was close, just an hour drive. 114 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,000 Some of the families didn't want them to go to that game that night 115 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,000 because they had a big game the next day, theirself. 116 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:55,000 You cannot express the excitement they had for their game that next day. 117 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,000 They had already won all their other games to make it to this tournament. 118 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 It was a championship tournament for the Gateway Gators. 119 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:10,000 I remember Jack Madruga pulling up in the driveway in his Mercury Montego. 120 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:14,000 My dad told my brother on his way out the door, 121 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 no booze, no smoking, and no girls. 122 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,000 And my brother looked at my dad and said, oh, come on, Dad. 123 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,000 Turned around and walked out the door. 124 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:31,000 They were all just happy and hooting and hollering about their favorite team 125 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,000 and left to go to Chico. 126 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:46,000 The next day, my mom telling me your brother's not home, 127 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,000 and I asked her, what do you mean they're not home? 128 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:59,000 I was an 11-year-old boy, and I wake up on a Saturday morning, 129 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,000 and my mom says, get up, we've got to go to your grandma's house. 130 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,000 Uncle Ted hasn't come home, and your grandma's really worried. 131 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Because of their special needs, it sent up the alarms quick. 132 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,000 Something was up. 133 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Families started calling each other, hey, did you see Bill? 134 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Have you seen Jack? Ted didn't come home. 135 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Now the families are panicking because we got five young men missing. 136 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,000 My brother, Jackie, did not stay the night anywhere, anytime. 137 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,000 He was home every single night. 138 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 He wanted to be home where he had his comfort safe zone. 139 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,000 They would have been home. 140 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,000 From that basketball game, they would have been home. 141 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 When they did call the Yuba County Sheriff's Office, 142 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 they said there was nothing they could do, because they were all over 18. 143 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:17,000 You have to wait this 24-48-hour timeframe before you can report them missing. 144 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:22,000 And family members said, but wait a minute, they all have intellectual disabilities. 145 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:27,000 Nothing they do. Bullshit. It's bullshit. 146 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:32,000 The families on February 25th do what they can. 147 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:36,000 They're frantically calling people, they're driving the highways. 148 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,000 There's no sign of the boys. 149 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,000 And at 8 p.m. they'd call back the Yuba County Sheriff's Department and say, 150 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,000 look, we need help finding these guys. 151 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 The initial investigation tried to retrace where they knew they had been. 152 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,000 They were supposed to be at Chico State watching a basketball game 153 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,000 and the editor of the newspaper in Chico. 154 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,000 He had been at the game that night. He saw them. He very much remembered them. 155 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,000 So they were able to verify they were present. 156 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,000 It was really quiet for the first couple of days. 157 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,000 February 26th, February 27th, no information. 158 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:29,000 On February 28th, the Forest Service says we found a car in the Plumas National Forest. 159 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:37,000 Basically 70 miles in the wrong direction up in the mountains. 160 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:53,000 It's a 1969 two-door Mercury Montego and it matches the cart of the missing men. 161 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:59,000 The Plumas National Forest is very rugged area. It's very mountainous. 162 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,000 Where they disappeared is about 4,000 feet above sea level. 163 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:15,000 There were major snowdrifts up there, up to 10, 20 feet in spots. 164 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:22,000 There are drop-offs in certain areas where you could just go up and down. 165 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:27,000 You could just lose your footing and fall 1,000 feet. 166 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,000 Nobody goes up that way. That's no man's land. 167 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:41,000 When I walked in the house, my mom was sitting on the kitchen floor crying 168 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,000 saying that they found the car but none of the boys. 169 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,000 The men were known to adhere to rigid schedules. 170 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:55,000 It was unheard of for them to do something as spontaneous as drive into the mountains in the middle of the night. 171 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 What could possibly have brought them there? 172 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 The boys, this is not common for them. They shouldn't have been there in the first place. 173 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000 There was no reason for them to have gone to the snow. 174 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,000 When they left their house, they were very lightly dressed for a basketball game in a gymnasium. 175 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 The car was, for the most part, unremarkable. 176 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,000 No damage, nothing to suggest anything bad had happened. The keys were missing. 177 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:42,000 What they did have in there were milk cartons, candy, wrappers, 178 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:50,000 things that you would more likely associate with children partying than you would with adult men traveling from a basketball game. 179 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:58,000 One of the investigators contacted the distributor of the milk and found out who their local vendors were. 180 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:05,000 So they started at Chico State and went to those stores one by one looking to see if anybody recalled seeing the boys in there that night. 181 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:11,000 They came across the bear market in Chico and fortunately they were able to speak with a woman who was working the night of the 24th. 182 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:19,000 And she did recall them. They were at Bear's Market right around closing time, which puts them there probably around 10 o'clock at night. 183 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,000 From there, they disappeared between Chico and Marysville. 184 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:41,000 It could be possible that sometime between 10 p.m. and 11 p.m., they exited off of the highway into a town. 185 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,000 It was a town called Oroville. 186 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,000 From there, they drive into the Plumas National Forest. 187 00:15:49,000 --> 00:16:02,000 And probably sometime around 11 p.m., maybe 11.30 p.m., they drive up a rutted snow-covered road in the middle of nowhere. 188 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:07,000 And their car gets stuck in probably five to six inches of snow. 189 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:17,000 And at that point, these guys wearing tennis shoes, blue jeans, and lightweight jackets just run into the darkness, snow, freezing temperatures for no reason. 190 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:31,000 When I set out to do the piece, I was able to talk to the investigators and really sit down and spend time with the families. 191 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:41,000 The questions that I remember being most bewildered by, why do you make that turn off? 192 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:49,000 Why do you stop the car there? Why do you get out of the car? Why do you start walking? 193 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Clearly having no idea where you're going. 194 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,000 The thing was, is they had their game the next day. 195 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:11,000 Some of them had their uniforms laid out on the beds. 196 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,000 And they wouldn't do anything voluntarily to miss that day. 197 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:25,000 Uncle Doc, he knew how to get to Chico. He had done this drive hundreds of times. 198 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 The car was found with a driver's window down. 199 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:35,000 His car was his baby. And to leave his car there, abandoned with the window down, no way. 200 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,000 There's no reason for those men to even get out of that car unless they were forced or scared. 201 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:48,000 To some folks, they didn't know what they were doing. They didn't make a mistake. 202 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:06,000 So this is the Bedwell Bar Bridge. It crosses Lake Oroville and leads you into the Plumas National Forest. 203 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:14,000 This is an obvious landmark, but if the men saw this bridge, they would know that they were far, far from home. 204 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,000 And they were going the wrong way. 205 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:24,000 And then if they see a sign for the plumas, they got to know better. 206 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:38,000 As you can see, the road is closed. Eight miles north up the road, that's where the Mercury Montego was abandoned. 207 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:45,000 I mean, it was a logging road. It didn't go anywhere. 208 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Maps wouldn't have taken them this way. There's no reason for them to be here just on a joyride. 209 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 There's something that brought them up this way. 210 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:04,000 There's no way they got lost. This night, something was going wrong. Really wrong. 211 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:19,000 The law enforcement agencies began a comprehensive search of the area immediately surrounding where the car was found. 212 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:28,000 There was multi-agency, at least four agencies involved. Well over 200 people participating in a search. 213 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:37,000 Between horseback, on foot and vehicles, it could go some distance in the snow and aircraft. It was extensive. 214 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:49,000 My dad, Jack, went to where the car was and started searching. He was there every single day. 215 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,000 We hunted those areas. We knew those areas up there. 216 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Jack Sr. got out and he walked for miles on the side of that mountain. 217 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Jack told me he stated out loud, vocally, I will find you son. I won't stop until I do. 218 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:16,000 All the families were out searching the woods. It was hell. I mean, you wake up every day just not knowing. 219 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,000 That's the worst part, not knowing. 220 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:33,000 The weather at the time became very snowy. It became very treacherous. The search and rescue teams would begin and then they'd stop. 221 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:47,000 March is their busiest time. April, May things have slowed down considerably and by June they're not really looking. 222 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:59,000 We had hope every day. Every day you'd wake up and they're going to find him. He's going to be okay. 223 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,000 The silence would just unbearable. 224 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,000 Sorry. 225 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:29,000 Some motorcyclists coming past this Forest Service campground smell something awful. 226 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:39,000 There's a camp trailer with its window smashed in inside of which they find the emaciated body of Ted Weir. 227 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:53,000 Ted Weir's body is on its back. His hands are crossed over his chest the way you would imagine someone preparing a body for mummification. 228 00:21:53,000 --> 00:22:03,000 He was wrapped very tightly in several sheets. Almost as if he were swaddling a child. It's not something he could have done to himself. 229 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:16,000 Ted had suffered horrendous frostbite. He was about six foot to 20 when he went missing and was probably down to 120 pounds when he's found. 230 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:21,000 He was clean shaven when he had disappeared. He had a full beard. 231 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:34,000 Because of the beard growth the coroners who looked at him were able to determine that he had been alive for some eight to 13 weeks. 232 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:47,000 This got to me. Slow death by starvation and hypothermia over at least eight weeks. 233 00:22:48,000 --> 00:23:04,000 The trailer where Ted died was 19 miles from the abandoned Montego. Panicked questions arose. How could police have missed this shelter? And was it too late to find the other men alive? 234 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:17,000 My Aunt Dorothy took me up to the place where they found the car. It's in March sometime. 235 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:32,000 I can't help but think that when we went up there he was still alive at that time. It struck me that I was that close to him. 236 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:42,000 He must have suffered terribly. He was still alive. And they didn't try hard enough to find him. 237 00:23:47,000 --> 00:24:05,000 About seven miles south of the trailer they find the badly decomposed remains of Jack Madruga. Across the road they find the remains of Bill Sterling and they had been scattered over an area by animals. 238 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:16,000 Doc had the keys in his pocket when he was found. So he was the driver. There was no doubt. 239 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:30,000 Grandma wanted to see Doc's remains. And our dad told her, Mom there's nothing left but bones. And she collapsed. She wanted to see her son. Tell him goodbye. 240 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:58,000 I heard someone say we found him. We found something. And I turned and walked back. And that's when I seen Mr. Hewitt Sr. drop to his knees and he was crying. 241 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:04,000 And he said, I'm sorry son. I promised I was going to find you. 242 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:18,000 He knew immediately that it was my brother from the clothes that he was wearing. 243 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:36,000 And they picked up a bunch of bones and my brother's backbone fell out of his shirt that he was wearing. And he still had his wallet and his jeans. 244 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:54,000 It was a hard day. It was a hard day. Still a hard day. It was like yesterday. Now my dad kept it together, I don't know. 245 00:25:55,000 --> 00:26:06,000 When they pulled the search off here that I didn't need their help, I'd find my son. And I believe I proved my point. 246 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:17,000 And I'm going to continue to help find the rest of them too. One way or the other. That's all I got to say. 247 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:37,000 The pathologist's report ruled the death is because of exposure. They succumbed to the elements. But there was not enough of them to where you could really accurately know everything. 248 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:45,000 There wasn't enough left. If there was blunt force trauma, if there was some other type of injury, it was possible that would never be known. 249 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:54,000 Gary Mathias has not been found at that scene. They just don't know where he is. 250 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,000 It was very hard. 251 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:12,000 But it gave me hope. I thought, well, the other ones are found. We'll find Gary. 252 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:22,000 But after Jackie Hewitt's body was found, it seemed like the Sheriff's Department decided they didn't want to look anymore. It was like, we're done. 253 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:34,000 By June 19th, the search teams up there decided to call it a day. The Sheriff's Department says we did everything we could to find him. 254 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:41,000 But there's nothing that they've been able to find for the remains of Gary Mathias. 255 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:47,000 I stayed out there two more weeks after they were gone. My husband and I and my brother-in-law. 256 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:57,000 I hate to say it, but it just didn't seem like they did a very thorough to me. 257 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,000 The family did more than the law enforcement did. 258 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:17,000 There's reports that members of the U.S. Forest Service claim we told law enforcement about those trailers and they never searched them. 259 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:30,000 We were hunting fish here our whole life. My dad could tell you what kind of print was in a swamp. 260 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:39,000 He seen four sets of tracks leading away from that car going up the hill north, not downward, the Sheriff's Department thinks. 261 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:49,000 Jack Sr. knew those trailers were there. They told him to go up there. 262 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Jack asked them to go to those damn trailers. He asked them and I remember him saying he believes one person told him they would never make it that far. 263 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,000 They would never make it that far. Like hell they wouldn't. 264 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:16,000 The distance between the trailers and the Madruba vehicle probably close to 20 miles. I don't think anybody thought those boys in that condition and that weather could have made it that far. 265 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:23,000 So I'm not shocked that nobody went all the way up to that fire camp, which at that time probably was under about five feet of snow. 266 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:35,000 They knew this cabin was up there and they didn't search it. So who's to say that somebody couldn't have been saved? 267 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:45,000 The men's capabilities continued to be a point of contention and for many it cast a dark shadow over the case. 268 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,000 It makes you mad. 269 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,000 Just the word pisses me off. 270 00:29:54,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Foul play suspected and disappearance of five slightly retarded Californians. 271 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 And do you think that that's the word? 272 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Why would you say retarded? 273 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,000 That's what they said back then. 274 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:12,000 That's just not right. 275 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:25,000 A little bit slower than if they would have said five championship basketball players for Gateway got lost. 276 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000 They would have probably found them. 277 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:35,000 Instead of saying this shit, I think it would have went a lot different. 278 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:44,000 They would have looked harder. 279 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:57,000 These were not 25 to 35 year old men who were as capable of making decisions and locating themselves as they might have been. 280 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:05,000 That stigma being called retarded really shaded the whole incident. 281 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:14,000 The perception of these men were just too stupid to turn around and come back and just kept going up in the forest was absurd. 282 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:21,000 And I think this perception spilled over into the public's eye and especially in law enforcement's eye. 283 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:29,000 They were just like, well, should we put all this effort out just to find some retarded men that got lost? 284 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:37,000 I think five young men with the mental capacity were excited about having seen their winning basketball team do so well. 285 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:46,000 They stopped at a market and got sugared up with chocolate milk and candies and somewhere along the way they made a bad decision. 286 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 And they took a bad road and they never recovered. 287 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000 One bad decision led to another bad decision. 288 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:56,000 To another bad decision. 289 00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:10,000 They tried to make us believe that it's stupidity and because they were retarded that they're up here on their own and there's no way that they've done this on their own. 290 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:24,000 One of the things that completely perplexed the investigators, there's a food locker outside the trailer and some sea ration cans, military food, have been removed and eaten. 291 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:35,000 But there was a second locker filled with enough canned food that it could have kept them alive for many months that had not been opened. 292 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000 There was a propane heater that had not been turned on. 293 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,000 So there was food there that could have fed them. 294 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000 There was a heater that could have kept them warm. 295 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,000 Why do you not eat the food? 296 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,000 Why do you not turn the heat on? 297 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:53,000 Why do you lie in a bed? 298 00:32:53,000 --> 00:33:01,000 Covered by sheets as though someone is caring for you, starving to death, for weeks. 299 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:07,000 What happened? 300 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Ted wouldn't have done anything that he thought would be against the law if he was stealing something. He wouldn't have done it. 301 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:33,000 And he wouldn't have known how to turn on propane in the first place. 302 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:40,000 Ted Weir could not have tucked himself into the bed like that. Someone else was with him. 303 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:48,000 In the trailer were black tennis shoes and they were the shoes that Gary Mathias was wearing. 304 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:56,000 Weir shoes were never found. Either he lost them in the plumus or Gary Mathias took them and went away. 305 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Ted Weir and Gary Mathias both most likely made it to that trailer. 306 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:12,000 What happened to these men? What happened to Gary Mathias? 307 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Evidence suggested that Gary could have made it to the trailer and with no sign of his body, suspicion started to rise. 308 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Was Gary a victim, a scapegoat or something far worse? 309 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 I do know. 310 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,000 Oh God forgive me. 311 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Doc and the other guys were scared of Mathias. Gary was just going to go to the game with them. They didn't really want them to go, but they were too scared to say anything. 312 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:55,000 I did know that for a fact and that came from my uncle. 313 00:34:55,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Gary Mathias was under medication successfully. Had had a very peaceful two years before the events of that night. 314 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:16,000 But Gary Mathias had drug problems. He'd had very checkered experience in the army. He'd had some violent and very problematic outbursts. 315 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:32,000 The only explanation that made any sense to me was that Gary's psychosis had returned and that somehow he had persuaded these guys that this is the right thing to do. 316 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:48,000 What would conceivably be some other person's motive for persuading five men to do this long hike through the woods and then go die in a Forest Service cabin? 317 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:57,000 His schizophrenia is easy to use as an excuse, but there's no proof of Gary ever pulling something like this before. 318 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:15,000 If they can get in a car, drive to Chico without incident, attend a basketball game without incident, go to Bears Market without incident, house Gary the problem. I don't buy it. 319 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:27,000 If he wasn't on his medication, he cannot function by himself. So if he was not on his medication, my dad would not let him go. Period. 320 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:40,000 Law enforcement, they really, really didn't treat my brother fairly. They snap-chugged him. 321 00:36:40,000 --> 00:37:06,000 You were the first person ever in 45 years to ever ask me a question. No one in the police department, no one from the media, no one ever asked me for nothing. I don't know what happened to him. That's part that bothers me. I need to know where he is. 322 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:23,000 More than 40 years after the men's disappearance, one crucial question looms over this case. What happened to Gary Mathias? 323 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:39,000 I have mixed thoughts about what happened to Gary Mathias. Our mother owned a bar there in Browns Valley, and within a year after the bodies were found, I got an off-work full bar. 324 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:55,000 The third bar still down from the end, there was this guy. We locked eyes, and it was Gary Mathias. And I went through the swing door there that goes behind the bar, and I told Mom, I said, that's Gary Mathias sitting there at the end of the bar. She goes, are you sure? 325 00:37:55,000 --> 00:38:16,000 I said, I'm positive. I called the sheriff's department. Gary looked at us, and he jumped up and took off running. We could not catch him. People told me that he had been to CNAP. Montgomery Ward's, Denny's Restaurant, 7-Eleven parking lot. So I really don't know what to think. God strike me dead if I'm wrong. 326 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:30,000 There's a man driving through the Plumas area in 1979 who claims that Gary Mathias was hitchhiking. But there's no mention of that in the Yuba County Sheriff's Department file. 327 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:45,000 There have been some reports of Gary Mathias having been spotted or seen after the remains were found, both in the area, out of the area. We've had reports even out of the state. Nothing that we've ever been able to substantiate. 328 00:38:45,000 --> 00:39:02,000 I could tell you what I think. I don't think Gary Mathias made it to that trailer. 329 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:21,000 When I was growing up in Barrisville, there were certain families that you knew better than to fuck with. And the bully of the town was in and out of prison his whole life. And I've seen him do things. 330 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Very scary guy. There was rumors that this bully and a group of people that had bad blood with Gary Mathias and took his vengeance out on all of them. They started something with my brother. 331 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Gary Mathias stood up for him and these people beat the shit out of Gary Mathias and threw him over the Orville Bridge. 332 00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:10,000 And then they made the other four boys drive up that road and scared them enough that they would not come back down that hill. 333 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:22,000 One of the boys may have carried Gary Mathias' shoes up the trailer. That's why there was only four sets of footprints going up that hill. 334 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:41,000 I could feel that in my heart that my brother was the one who wrapped Ted up in those sheets. My brother would have never left Ted alone, not if he was alive. 335 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:56,000 There had been somebody in that trailer taking care of Ted and I believe it was my brother Gary. And I think him and Jackie took off to try to find help. But Gary was weak without his medication. 336 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:10,000 I think it was a little while before he started losing his mind. I think he just got lost and it was still cold. I do believe that he didn't make it out of there any more than the other boys did. 337 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:23,000 I think he was the one who was trying to get away from me. 338 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:31,000 Anybody who's ever worked a case like this wants to know. It doesn't matter how many times I read the report, but I'll find some little nuance that just strikes me different. 339 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:42,000 I would bet within the first 11 miles from the car, Madruga, north Stirling, became fatigued, which is the first symptom of hypothermia. 340 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:52,000 They were close friends. If one was succumbing to the elements, the other was likely to stay. And together they perished. 341 00:41:53,000 --> 00:42:03,000 The three were taking care of each other, so they were destined to continue. Jackie Hewitt's remains were found along that path. I don't think he ever made it to the trailer. 342 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:16,000 Ted Weir, obviously we know he makes it there. I think it's a pretty significant chance that Gary Mathias makes it there. 343 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:23,000 I think he was there right up until Ted perished based on the way that he was swaddled. He probably took the better pair of shoes to try to make it away. 344 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,000 And likely didn't get very far. 345 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:42,000 You can only speculate. You may answer one question, but you're going to bring up 20 more. 346 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:53,000 The only thing that I could ask for right now is please find his remains. He needs to come home. 347 00:42:53,000 --> 00:43:00,000 I don't believe in closure. I don't. As long as there's an empty chair at that table, nothing's closed. 348 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,000 Knowing how all of them were, it had been so scary for him, and that just eats up my heart. 349 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000 I couldn't be there to help him up. 350 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 They were worthy human beings. 351 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,000 Yes, every one of them. 352 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:48,000 I can't even remember what the last words were that I ever said to my brother. I'm hoping it was, I love you. 353 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:57,000 These were vulnerable guys. How could that happen to these guys? 354 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Ted, he probably lived with me if he was still here. 355 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,000 Yeah, I don't think it could be on his own. 356 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:11,000 No. Whoever had the most macaroni cheese, if we would stay with him. 357 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:18,000 He would have been with somebody that knew him and loved him to take care of him. And we did. 358 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:29,000 We were a very close-knit family, but we weren't the type of family that did the hugs and I love you. 359 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,000 The first time my dad ever told me they loved me, 360 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,000 was the day my brother was found. 361 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,000 But we knew we loved each other. 362 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000 We'd still like answers. 363 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000 The way that they were viewed as incompetent, that's not fair. 364 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:11,000 Something brought them up to that mountain where they meant their death. 365 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,000 You just don't know what they were doing, what was happening that night. 366 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,000 Where they abandoned their car in the darkness on a side road. 367 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:27,000 And you come up here and you're more confused than you've ever been in your entire life about this case. 368 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:33,000 They can't prove there was foul play, and they can't explain it if there wasn't. 369 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:43,000 What exactly happened to the Yuba County Five on the night of February 24th, 1978, may forever be a mystery. 370 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:49,000 Almost 50 years later, the truth is still unknown. 371 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:54,000 Can you just imagine them standing on the street corner drinking their pop? 372 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000 Waving at everybody. 373 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000 Waving at everybody. Everybody waving back. 374 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:06,000 Somebody out there knows exactly what happened to those boys. 375 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Let there be justice. 376 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:49,000 The truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the 377 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:56,080 truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the 378 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:01,920 truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth is, the truth 379 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,060 you 380 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,060 you 381 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,060 you